Category: Let's talk
I don't know if I've got the totally wrong idea here. But, from my end, it really looks like people use phrases and sayings like "life's too short" to doo one of the following alot more than they used to.
1. state something and not stand behind it later.
2. walk out of an argument they know they are losing.
3. use these kinds of statements to push their views on others with out having to think about the opposing views or opinions. Because in their eyes, life is too short to have to deal with thingsthey don't agree with in any form.
4. degrade others.
5. Use these statements as a shield to avoid dealing with problems they may have.
your thoughts?
sorry about the errors . I didn't proof this like I should have.
I agree somewhat. "Life's too short" and similar phrases are often just a way to end a conversation or argument. What annoys me even more, though, is people who say "whatever" and walk away. I mean, come on folks, if you're not articulate enough to do better than "whatever" go back to school and learn some new words.
I agree with you on this one. It seems to happen a lot here on the Zone more than any other online communities I belong to. I don't see it happening in the real world too much, though. I feel like it is stupid to start arguments with people because they like or believe in something different. People are allowed to be individuals, so long as what they are doing is not hurting anyone else. the way that I judge is that if it is moral, legal, ethical, and in my case, Scriptural, than it is fine to do.
I do see it happening in the real world as well as on the zone. It's as if people don't know how to finish what they are saying in a clear concise manner, so they just say whatever and that's supposed to end things. Same goes for life's too short, I don't have time for this, etc.
yes, it most definitely does happen in the real world.
either that or it is just a handy coppout for people who are to lazy to finish what they start.
Lol, of course Reina uses the "life's too short" phrase, not once, but twice in the crazy doll post. Either that is hypocrazy on her part of it is sometimes legitimate to use thephrase to end an argument that has no point in the first place.
In this particular instance I'd say it is the latter, for the argument on that board makes no sense, but it also goes to show that phrase, automatically, does not mean the person is hiding or wrong or it is always bad to avoid arguments.
Good point WB. I think the point I was trying to make and didn't is that these phrases have lost there origional function because people are using them in the numbered ways I pointed out. but I see your point on escapeing a useless argument unless its the perpetuator that decides to turn tail with something like that.
WB, you are right. I was just joking, and people felt the need to turn that thread into a pointless drama fest. I did say that life is two short for two reasons. One, people have their pantyhose on way too tight around here. i was just kidding around and being random. I'm that type of person, you know? That will never change. i have no problem finishing a legitimate argument, but if it is pointless, i'm definitely going to say that life is too short to fight over pointless things, and there are many lessons in my short twenty-four years on this earth that have taught me that. When I posted the thread, there was no intent on arguing. I was having a good time and was in one of my random moods. Apparently, that is a problem for some, but that does not mean I'm changing my personality to fit what others think I should be.
Two, i said that life is two short because some feel the need to constantly make life hard for people and bully them untill they are broken. It would be nice if people just got along for once and focused on helping one another. i feel good when I give myself to others.
if there is a real argument that i'm involved in, and thankfully it is not too often, i do not need cliche phraises to fight my way out of it, for I'm capable of fighting the fine fight with my own wits. I handle arguments in different ways, depending on the situation. One, I fight until I win. This would involve fighting for individuality, fighting for justice, and fighting for what I believe in. Two, I will walk away. I have no problem walking away if things get out of hand. I don't have to always have the last word, and walking away does not necessarily mean that someone is weak or has been defeated. If I feel that if the fight is useless or that it is not going to get anywhere, I walk away, and I feel better about doing it, too. Three, if I can, I ignore the argument or the people trying to start it completely. It is all about picking my battles; however, you can count on me to fight for what matters to me and stand up for what I believe in, and there is nothing hypocritical about that.
Now, out in the real world, i don't ever encounter as much drama as there is on the Zone. sure, I've had my times of running into very ignorant people, but those are easy to avoid. I don't have to see them, and for the most part, I don't have to deal with them, though, there are some instances I have, and boy does it stink. I've not heard people say the life is too short phraise, but I've heard the I don't have time for this way too many times that I do not have enough hairs on my head to count.
Sometimes, saying something like "life's too short" is used because people can argue something way past death. I know a person who can take something and ask question after question and bring up little quibbling point after point until it just gets tedious to discuss the topic anymore. I have to go in and just say, "Um, I don't know" just to end an argument which should have ended a while ago.
I agree with hating when people say "whatever" and walk away.
o, whatever...
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at poste 11 (i think) i see where you're going with this one. but i think when i was really annoied about this, I was looking more at the people who spawn several arguments for there entertainment and only pull out when they know there losing with phrases like this that they think make them look better in everyones eyes.
the one i hate is you are so stressed. usually i'm just fine and it is the other person who is ranting, raving, and foaming at the mouth.
I hate it when a child asks why the parent doesn't ever explain themselves, and the parent says: "Because I'm the parent, and you're the child". I know that falls somewhere along the lines of what the original poster was talking about. I was just using a specific example that I've heard too many times as an older youth, and even as a younger child, and it really pisses me off. Lol.
That stuff never worked with me. When my parents used those stupid lines, i still questioned them anyway, and i was all the more persistent about it. Sometimes, i just flat out stated that I was not doing anything until they told me why. Did i get in trouble? Sure i did. But they did learn quickly that they were not going to get me to do things by punishing me because all the discipline in the world did not break my will. They quickly learned that explanation was the best way to get my cooperation.
When I have children, I'm not going to use those useless lines. i feel that children deserve an explanation for everything they are asked to do. I felt that way since I was small, and I still hold onto that now. i mean, what if the child was always used to hearing that "Because I said so," "because i'm the adult and you're the child," and the "you must obey your elders," and it comes from the wrong person, let's say a kidnapper or child predator who has a very sick and twisted agenda? The child who is accustom to hearing such things may willingly comply, and it would be to his detrament. Things would have been fine if he questioned. Something to think about, huh?
A good movie that screams this loud and clear is titled "I Know My First Name is steven." The boy was always told by his parents that he must obey all adults because he was a child. It says that in the beginning of the movie. Well, one day, he was obedient to the wrong adult, and he was kidnapped and raped for seven straight years. He did finally escape, but a lot of dammage was done. This is a true story, by the way. You can watch it on YouTube by typing in the name of the movie: or, if you are on Blink Nation, as well as here, you can go to my profile and watch the movie from there, as I've uploaded it. it is one of my favorites.
along the same lines as "because I am the parent...." was my dad's all time favorite which totally ticked me off. "i may make a mistake but i am never wrong. because i am a parent i don't have to apologize for blah blah blah. so get over yourself and shut up" i didn't know that all parents had GOD as their middle name. my dad was horrified that my husband and I admitted we were wrong to our kids and when we made errors we said we were sorry. we were being too nice, raising weak wimps, and lowering our authority standards.
goodness gracious me there is such a measure of agreement here isn't there? How dull. how drab and boring. I'm afraid that reading the contributions to this discussion has made one feel that life's too long, rather than too short.
Someone mensioned this bord to me the other day so I thought I'd go find it and see if I'd not seen anything else on it. God but this does make me think of a few newer zoners on here.
Oh I love these lines of cowersion et al do what I say. I've heard these more often than not when a random stranger is trying to get me to accept Jesus as my personal savior right there on the sidewalk. In regards to parenting I always let Solomon know what's happening, "hi sweety are you hungry? I'll come get you in a couple minutes okay, I just need to finish"... He seems to understand and respond well. On apologizing and asking for forgiveness I've heard Bruce say he was sorry to his kids. We don't believe in manipulating to be loved around here. Oh yes that you must be stressed or your the one whose angry that really gets me going. My trigger is a lot less touchy these days. The old saying applies here, don't write checks your ass can't cash, applies litterally an to arguments as well.Another wrinkle, why do sighted folks lord over blind folks that we must feel bad about our situations so they have to convince us or tell some dramatic story of someone they knew who lived a gray little life. I've had vets refuse a wad of ones and a couple handfuls of change because they thought I was worse off than them. With one guy I threw the money after him because I knew he was homeless and needed food. Bruce said he saw the man picking through the garbage. Crazy people out there. Tiffany
I've noticed that a lot of sighted folks use the line, "It must be so horrible!" Well no, it's the only thing i've ever known. I had an elderly gentlemen come up to me in a bus station once and hand me a slip of paper, telling me that if I got someone to read it to me when I got home I would, "get two new eyes when I got to heaven." Ok? I respect your beliefs but I'm content the way I am, even with the occasional drawback.
Wow. Get someone to read the piece of paper? Wow! That's a new one. Why can't they preech the serman themselves if they're so determined to get you to accept Jesus.
Two new eyes when one gets to heaven? So people will have physical bodies in heaven and not be beings of pure soul or spirit? I suppose everybody will be all thin and tan and blond-haired and blue-eyed, too, right? Now tell me the one about the magic frog prince again. LOL!
I agree completely, but when Reina brought up the Zone, I know I've done it here. However, my defense is pretty valid--have you seen some of the things people fight about around here? It's just like um...dude. You're wasting time....on this? *now boggling at you* Why? I still agree just as much, but some shit people get in arguments about on here is just ridiculous and I'd rather say whatever and walk away from it. People have way less of an excuse like that in real life though.
If we're talking about evasive phrases, here's one.
I'm not being cruel, I'm giving these people the insults they deserve.
Oh really? And, do tell, which insults do you deserve, or have you obtained true enlightenment? LOL! I call that little head game "Superiority by Implication." It works like this. Point out somebody else's flaws and faults, using just the right tone and context, and people are supposed to assume you do not possess those same faults, therefore you are superior, therefore you win.